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the two senate leaders harry reid and mitch mcconnell are work on a stopgap bill. >> at some point, the negotiating process, it appears that there are things that stop us from moving forward. i hope we are not there but we are getting close. >> i want everyone to know i am willing to get this done. but i need a dance partner. >> reporter: the legislation would prevent a tax increase for reveille 98% of the -- for roughly 98% of workers extend unemployment benefits and prevent a huge cut in payments to medicare doctors. >> we should introduce legislation that would make sure middle class taxes stay where they are and there should an up or down vote. >> reporter: if they reach a deal it won't pass congress necessarily by monday night. if it doesn't every body income tax also go up. average family would pay an extra $3446 more in 2013. and farm programs would expire. potentially doubling the price of milk. and if congress doesn't pass a new bill. >> we will come back with a new congress in january 4th and the first bill that will be introduced will be class families. >> reporter: the barga
the two senate leaders harry reid and mitch mcconnell are work on a stopgap bill. >> at some point, the negotiating process, it appears that there are things that stop us from moving forward. i hope we are not there but we are getting close. >> i want everyone to know i am willing to get this done. but i need a dance partner. >> reporter: the legislation would prevent a tax increase for reveille 98% of the -- for roughly 98% of workers extend unemployment benefits and prevent...
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. >> reporter: majority leader harry reid acknowledged democrats were stuck and he, too called for help. >> i have a number of conversations with the president and at this stage, we are not able to make a counteroffer. >> reporter: democrats blamed republicans for a "major setback" when mcconnell suggested chances to social security that would mean that future increases in payments to seniors would be smaller. >> we are not going to have any social security cuts. at this stage, that just doesn't seem appropriate. >> reporter: a number of republican senators backed off, saying they keep social security off the table, but want democrats to do more to reduce the deficit u. >> republicans don't want to see new revenues, in other words, democrat tax increases, be used for new spending. and so that's sort of where where many of our members are drawing the line right now. >> reporter: i asked about the role of vice president biden and i'm told that it's sort of good cop, bad cop. if mcconnell would prefer to talk to the vice president, democrats say they are fine with that. there is still sign
. >> reporter: majority leader harry reid acknowledged democrats were stuck and he, too called for help. >> i have a number of conversations with the president and at this stage, we are not able to make a counteroffer. >> reporter: democrats blamed republicans for a "major setback" when mcconnell suggested chances to social security that would mean that future increases in payments to seniors would be smaller. >> we are not going to have any social security...
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many assume that is what will happen if harry reid put the president's plan on the floor. the negotiations over that are a big sticking point. i have heard from republicans that it may have gone as high as $500,000. they say they are negotiating but they will not say the number. i hear it may be as high as $500,000. >> thank you for the update. midafternoon today, senator john thune spoke with reporters on where things stand on the fiscal cliff. >> where do things stand as far as a republican deal? >> republicans advanced a proposal last night and you heard senator mcconnell talk about it on the floor. we're still waiting for a counteroffer. there was an indication we would receive the by 10:00 this morning, but discussions still continue. senator mcconnell and vice president joe biden are continuing to discuss this and we think there still could be a path forward. democrats have come out and made a huge deal out of changing this and republicans are very concerned that it should not be used as an offset to reduce or replace some of the spending cuts that would occur and de
many assume that is what will happen if harry reid put the president's plan on the floor. the negotiations over that are a big sticking point. i have heard from republicans that it may have gone as high as $500,000. they say they are negotiating but they will not say the number. i hear it may be as high as $500,000. >> thank you for the update. midafternoon today, senator john thune spoke with reporters on where things stand on the fiscal cliff. >> where do things stand as far as a...
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aplicarÍa la exenciÓn de recortes de impuestos a millones de estados unidos de acuerdo con el vocero harry reid. >>> hemos sido flexible en tope de ingresos. por su parte el lÍder republicano, pidiÓ intervenciÓn de joey biden durante negociaciones y asegurÓ que su partido esta abierto al diÁlogo. >>> yo quiero que todos sepan que tengo voluntad pero necesito l pareja de baile, para analistas el impacto que demÓcratas y remo canso no se pongan de acuerdo a sÓlo horas que venza el plazo Área re caera en el ciudadano comÚn. >>> es un alza de impuestos que perjudica a la clase pobre y media en estados unidos, el otro problema la eliminaciÓn de beneficios de desempleo, los desempleados van a continuar sin recibir esto. >>> y pronostican que afectarÁ a mercados bursÁtiles, a nivel de mercado un gran incertidumbre no sÓlo afecta a estados unidos, las inversiones y todo en relaciÓn a jubilaciones en estados unidos, si no hay acuerdo el senado podrÍa traer a votaciÓn la propuesta de presidente obama. >>> que seria mantener impuestos bajos para quienes ganan menos de 250 mil dÓlares y ta
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all of those have been on leader reid's desk, and my question is why would he let it sit there? when you have paperwork on your desk, and let's say this is your employee, and the paperwork is marked on the desk urgent and some hitting in may and august and why not take it up. >> plenty of blame to go around, but last week, and go back a week ago -- >> okay. >> and when john boehner came up with what i kept seeing the pictures of john boehner and president obama sitting together and very good picture and they are both good guys to come up with a plan, and john boehner came up with a plan that democrats would not enjoy the idea that taxes going up on people earning more than $1 million a year and not acceptable for most people, but he could not get members of his own caucus to agree to it, so it is not fair for the republicans to somehow suggest that we are here because of the democrats. i am not saying that the democrats had nothing to do with it, but you can't get your own act together, and the republicans and the democrats in the house can't get their act together. >> well, we
all of those have been on leader reid's desk, and my question is why would he let it sit there? when you have paperwork on your desk, and let's say this is your employee, and the paperwork is marked on the desk urgent and some hitting in may and august and why not take it up. >> plenty of blame to go around, but last week, and go back a week ago -- >> okay. >> and when john boehner came up with what i kept seeing the pictures of john boehner and president obama sitting...
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. >> reporter: with that harry reid and mitch mcconnell launched a latch-dimp effort to craft a bipt plan to that stop the tax hike going into effect on new year's day. they negotiated all day saturday. saturday night there was an offer. by this morning, a clear sense of optimism and warnings that failure would be unthinkable. >> there are no breakthroughs yet, but there's a real possibility of a deal. >> if we are not able to reach an agreement, it will be dire. >> the morning's optimism turned into the afternoon's pessimism. the senate opened for business at 1:00 p.m. with the ominous prayer from the chaplain. >> look with favor on our nation and save us from self-inflicted wounds. >> reporter: soon democratic leader reed acknowledged he had not been able to make a counteroffer to republicans. >> it's just that we're apart on some pretty big issues. >> frustrated with the impasse, republican mcconnell said he called vice president biden, urging him to get involved. >> i'm concerned about the lack urgency here. i want erch to know i'm willing to get this done, but i need a dance par
. >> reporter: with that harry reid and mitch mcconnell launched a latch-dimp effort to craft a bipt plan to that stop the tax hike going into effect on new year's day. they negotiated all day saturday. saturday night there was an offer. by this morning, a clear sense of optimism and warnings that failure would be unthinkable. >> there are no breakthroughs yet, but there's a real possibility of a deal. >> if we are not able to reach an agreement, it will be dire. >> the...
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harry reid and mitch mcconnell are the key players. he sounded frustrated after not receiving a counter-offer. a key member of the leadership team offered this update. >> offeringses and discussions between and we remain hopeful that will get a breakthrough. obviously what happened here between the two leaders in the senate had broken down because the senate democrats failed to come forward with a counter offer to the proposal the republicans made last night. hopefully the discussions between the.and senator mcconnell will get us on track. >> republican aides recognize the consequences if it falls apart. everybody gets a tax increase in 48 hours. >> well, it's less than 48 hours now. i'm wonder, are the democrats fighting among themself? >> there's a battle over social security. republicans are including a new way of calculating inflation to lower payments to recipients of social security. democrats had could consider it if it's part of a $4 trillion package. now republicans say it's off the table and key democrats are hopeful senate l
harry reid and mitch mcconnell are the key players. he sounded frustrated after not receiving a counter-offer. a key member of the leadership team offered this update. >> offeringses and discussions between and we remain hopeful that will get a breakthrough. obviously what happened here between the two leaders in the senate had broken down because the senate democrats failed to come forward with a counter offer to the proposal the republicans made last night. hopefully the discussions...
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reid said everybody can go home until about 11:00 tomorrow. tomorrow is new year's eve, for those paying attention. and apparently, there's no dignity left in the senate or house and they will be in tomorrow on new year's eve pretending like they're going to get to some kind of resolution here. >> what do we know about where they are, robert? did the inclusion of the vice president make any difference? what do you know? >> i think that's a key point, chris. tin collusion of vice president biden in these talks means that though these talks are stalled, negotiations continue. harry reid and mitch mcconnell had some problems getting to a final offer, final counteroffer this afternoon. but the inclusion of vice president biden means the white house is in the loop with what minority leader mcconnell is doing. >> how much hope is really the question here, ryan? taking the cost of living essentially, the cpi off the table for social security, which was going to be a non-starter for harry reid and for the president, so i guess the republicans could sa
reid said everybody can go home until about 11:00 tomorrow. tomorrow is new year's eve, for those paying attention. and apparently, there's no dignity left in the senate or house and they will be in tomorrow on new year's eve pretending like they're going to get to some kind of resolution here. >> what do we know about where they are, robert? did the inclusion of the vice president make any difference? what do you know? >> i think that's a key point, chris. tin collusion of vice...
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at the same time, if hrry reid and mitch mcconnell working on it how are you guys going to receive it when it gets over into your chamber? >> probay not well. here's the deal, this all could have been worked out some time ago. august of the end of july, the house-passed tax bill and senate over to the senate. there were free taken up an amended and take it back. that's the way things usually wowork. revenue bills must originate the house of representatives. we get to work six months ago. a work product six there and wait for the senate to take something up. here is what is troubling about all this. we will get through this this week however it turns out or next week, however turns out. you are right about the debt limit. that is going to recess well, and then just after that we have an appropriations lapse. so the first three months of the year you have fiscal cliff, debt limit, and appropriations laps all staring the american people in the face. i get it that people are sick of this combat at the same time it is because we have such an nasa's spending problem is the reason why these
at the same time, if hrry reid and mitch mcconnell working on it how are you guys going to receive it when it gets over into your chamber? >> probay not well. here's the deal, this all could have been worked out some time ago. august of the end of july, the house-passed tax bill and senate over to the senate. there were free taken up an amended and take it back. that's the way things usually wowork. revenue bills must originate the house of representatives. we get to work six months ago....
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reid: mr. president, we're going to come in at 11:00 a.m. tomorrow morning. we'll have further announcements perhaps at 11:00 in the morning. i certainly hope so. the presiding officer: the senior senator from connecticut is recognized. mr. lieberman: i thank the chair. mr. president, i guess the good news is that i'm rising today not to speak about the fiscal cliff, but what i'm speaking about is not good news because it deals with the tragic events that occurred in benghazi, libya, on september 11 when terrorists took the lives of our ambassador chris stevens and three other brave americans who were serving us there. mr. president, i rise today along with the ranking member of the homeland security and governmental affairs committee, senator collins, to submit for the record the report that she and i have been working on with our staffs and other members of the committee following those events in libya. we called this report flashing red, a specialist report on the terrorist attack in benghazi. flashing red was a term that was used in conversation with us b
reid: mr. president, we're going to come in at 11:00 a.m. tomorrow morning. we'll have further announcements perhaps at 11:00 in the morning. i certainly hope so. the presiding officer: the senior senator from connecticut is recognized. mr. lieberman: i thank the chair. mr. president, i guess the good news is that i'm rising today not to speak about the fiscal cliff, but what i'm speaking about is not good news because it deals with the tragic events that occurred in benghazi, libya, on...
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harry reid, before his closed door luncheon, said he was still cautiously optimistic. hard to see from our perspective why he would say this because things seem pretty bleak at this point, though you never know what's going on behind closed doors. melissa. >> thank you very much. keeping an eye on that podium because senator harry reid is apparently going to come out and speak in a few minutes so we'll watch for that. let's go to the white house correspondent kristen welker. we know the senate majority leader has talked to the president. has there been any reaction from the white house today. >> reporter: the white house is not commenting on these negotiations that are going on over on the hill. they do not want to derail them by speaking out, by agitating the situation, but i tell you that there is a lot of investment here going on behind the scenes. in addition to mitch mcconnell speaking to vice president biden, the president sent his top negotiator, one of his top negotiators, rob nabors over to the hill. he's meeting with senate democrats as well this afternoon. a
harry reid, before his closed door luncheon, said he was still cautiously optimistic. hard to see from our perspective why he would say this because things seem pretty bleak at this point, though you never know what's going on behind closed doors. melissa. >> thank you very much. keeping an eye on that podium because senator harry reid is apparently going to come out and speak in a few minutes so we'll watch for that. let's go to the white house correspondent kristen welker. we know the...
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you know, what's going on here appears to be that senator reid, the democratic leader is playing bad cop and joe biden is playing good cop. he certainly has a long history of talks and bipartisan negotiations with mitch mcconnell. i want to, over the past hour, we have spoken to two republican senators, i wanted to talk to claire mccaskill, thanks very much for joining us, they just ended their almost two-hour meeting, martin, two hours, what was going on in there behind those door? >> i know you will be shocked to hear that a lot of senators wanted to talk. >> that is shocking. >> everyone wanted to have their same i think the consensus is that we all still want to try to get a deal but some of us are very discouraged that what appears to be on the table now doesn't really do anything to reduce the deficit and this was all supposed to be an exercise in bringing down our deficit and our long-term debt and where we are right now, it doesn't appear that we are getting that done and even more importantly, it appears that republicans are still trying to protect the tippy top as opposed t
you know, what's going on here appears to be that senator reid, the democratic leader is playing bad cop and joe biden is playing good cop. he certainly has a long history of talks and bipartisan negotiations with mitch mcconnell. i want to, over the past hour, we have spoken to two republican senators, i wanted to talk to claire mccaskill, thanks very much for joining us, they just ended their almost two-hour meeting, martin, two hours, what was going on in there behind those door? >> i...
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and a tweet from one of the reporters here says senator reid makes an offer to gop, doesn't say what it is, and says e republicans' offer of calculating inflation with the chain cpi was an act of desperation. we'll bring you back to this if the senate comes back into session. in the meantime, we return to our regular booktv programming. >> and now joining us again on booktv is senator rand paul. his second book, "government bullies," senator, who are the bullies? >> well, all throughout your government there's 41 different agencies who carry firearms now in the government, and you say, well, i don't mind the police or the fbi. well, the department of agriculture has a s.w.a.t. team. the fish and wildlife have a s.w.a.t. team. in fact, the fish and wildlife raided gibson guitar with guns drawn, took all their computer equipment and their wood and then doesn't let them know what they were -- didn't let them know what they were accused of for a year, but when they finally accused them of something, it was breaking a foreign regulation. a law in india they were accused of breaking and pe
and a tweet from one of the reporters here says senator reid makes an offer to gop, doesn't say what it is, and says e republicans' offer of calculating inflation with the chain cpi was an act of desperation. we'll bring you back to this if the senate comes back into session. in the meantime, we return to our regular booktv programming. >> and now joining us again on booktv is senator rand paul. his second book, "government bullies," senator, who are the bullies? >> well,...
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>> it's clear from senator reid said, they are not going to touch social security. but the president has made clear in discussions with speaker boehner, these entitlement programs will be on the table but only if it's a broader debt deal. republicans have different ideas. they want to see more cuts in spending right now. >> arthel: thank you very much. >> gregg: congress is not only facing a fiscal cliff, it's up a dairy clarify, if you will. the current farm bill is set to expire on new year's day. if an extension of that is not passed, the farm policies would revert to laws back to 1949 and cost of milk, that could skyrocket. back then the government used a formula to calculate dairy prices that is much more expensive than it is today. one option said to be on the table is short term extension that would prevent milk prices from rising. >> arthel: to other stories. a judge ordering a psychiatric evaluation for a woman suspected of shoving a man off a new york public is way platform. he was arraigned last night on murder and hate crime. she confessed to pushing a m
>> it's clear from senator reid said, they are not going to touch social security. but the president has made clear in discussions with speaker boehner, these entitlement programs will be on the table but only if it's a broader debt deal. republicans have different ideas. they want to see more cuts in spending right now. >> arthel: thank you very much. >> gregg: congress is not only facing a fiscal cliff, it's up a dairy clarify, if you will. the current farm bill is set to...
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. >> one last question, harry reid said if you can't put something by tonight, he will put a scaled down version of what the president has asked for with regard to tax cuts on the senate planned for of course that is raising taxes on everybody making above $250,000 a year. do you think, knowing your republican colleagues, that enough republicans will cross over the democratic side and allow that to pass, if -- even if it's 60 votes needed? >> you know, it's hard to say until we know exactly what might be in it. this -- this is what i would say about that. if that's where we end up and if he decides to move a bill onto the floor and maybe could pick up the house passed extension of all the rates, hr-8, as a vehicle for that he ought to open it up to the amendment process, give us an opportunity to debate some of these things that we think ought to be a part of t what he will more than likely do, if history is any guide in this, is take a bill and felt amendment tree and prevent republicans from having an opportunity to offer amendments. think we would welcome an opportunity to have a deba
. >> one last question, harry reid said if you can't put something by tonight, he will put a scaled down version of what the president has asked for with regard to tax cuts on the senate planned for of course that is raising taxes on everybody making above $250,000 a year. do you think, knowing your republican colleagues, that enough republicans will cross over the democratic side and allow that to pass, if -- even if it's 60 votes needed? >> you know, it's hard to say until we know...
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harry reid's comments that you played earlier. it does not look like the democrats are going to budge on the chain cpi. they've publicly taken a stand against it. ironically on the same day where barack obama noted that he was in favor of perhaps agreeing to chain cpi as part of a bigger deal. so from what i can tell, the chain cpi is off the table for democrats. if that's not enough for the -- if that's a must-have for the republicans, then we're not going to have a deal. >> i'm going to interrupt you, we're going to keep tracking this story together. >>> coming up next, a man you're not seeing on tv, he's playing in the background. he may be the most feared man in washington and he doesn't even hold office. >> if i went and became a tibetan monk on the top of some mountain somewhere, the american people would still, they were against tax increases long before i was born. the whole tea party thing predates me. >>> grover norquist on the fiscal cliff showdown and why politicians won't back down from signing his anti-tax pledge. so
harry reid's comments that you played earlier. it does not look like the democrats are going to budge on the chain cpi. they've publicly taken a stand against it. ironically on the same day where barack obama noted that he was in favor of perhaps agreeing to chain cpi as part of a bigger deal. so from what i can tell, the chain cpi is off the table for democrats. if that's not enough for the -- if that's a must-have for the republicans, then we're not going to have a deal. >> i'm going to...
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harry reid says he has reached out to the president on the phone a couple of times. republicans say there is no single issue that should break this. there is something that democrats are talking about. what we have learned is in an offer presented by republicans last night at 7:00 included within that was a request to make a change to how future increases to the payments of social security would change. not taking any money away presently but over the years to come reducing the amount of increase. that is called chain cpi. for democrats it is a nonstarter. here is majority leader harry reid. >> we're not going to have any social security cuts. at this stage that doesn't seem appropriate. i still hold out hope that we can get something done but i'm not overly optimistic but i am cautiously optimistic. >> so you hear some sense that there might be a potential for movement. i think we have to judge everything in little incremental steps. why do republicans want that? basically their focus is if they are giving on tax increases which we get the indication they are willin
harry reid says he has reached out to the president on the phone a couple of times. republicans say there is no single issue that should break this. there is something that democrats are talking about. what we have learned is in an offer presented by republicans last night at 7:00 included within that was a request to make a change to how future increases to the payments of social security would change. not taking any money away presently but over the years to come reducing the amount of...
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reid: mr. president, i ask unanimous consent the senate recess subject to call of the chair. the presiding officer: without objection. the senate stands in recess the senate stands in recess >> lawmakers taking a break now that they've completed their legislative work having taken care of two executive nominations. they're heading off to attend party caucus meetings as leaders continue to work on an agreement to avoid the looming fiscal cliff. and c-span's cameras are trained outside those meeting rooms in case lawmakers or staff talk to the press. we're also standing by in the house meeting rooms and the rules committee is poised to consider any agreement. we'll have updates as they become available. and as a reminder, we have a special web page set up with access to video of related briefings and hearings, a twitter feed from reporters and members and our resource area which features documents and articles all available at c-span.org/fiscalcliff. >>> we're going to turn now back to our regular weekend programs here on booktv, and we'll take you back to the senate if and whe
reid: mr. president, i ask unanimous consent the senate recess subject to call of the chair. the presiding officer: without objection. the senate stands in recess the senate stands in recess >> lawmakers taking a break now that they've completed their legislative work having taken care of two executive nominations. they're heading off to attend party caucus meetings as leaders continue to work on an agreement to avoid the looming fiscal cliff. and c-span's cameras are trained outside...
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you know, senate majority leader, harry reid has got an approval rating just a little bit above that, 34% for his role in the fiscal cliff negotiations. >> let's move on to other polling information. which i agree is prety long-term. locking out to 2016 now, what is the potential impact on all of this say on who could replace the current president of the united states. what are we seeing? >> well you know, that's right. the future is very fascinating. we took a look in a poll that we released today, the cnn/orc poll that looked at republicans and democrats. we asked senators from both parties, who they support. let's take a look at the parties. here's the lineup, for the democrats it's secretary of state hillary clinton. she's far and away ahead of the pack with what, 85% of those who said they would support her. she's got a 20-point lead over the next front-runners, which is vice president joe biden. new york governor andrew cuomo, the son of mario cuomo is in third with 56%. >> a lot of that i would guess is probably just simply based on name recognition at this point? >> it is. >>
you know, senate majority leader, harry reid has got an approval rating just a little bit above that, 34% for his role in the fiscal cliff negotiations. >> let's move on to other polling information. which i agree is prety long-term. locking out to 2016 now, what is the potential impact on all of this say on who could replace the current president of the united states. what are we seeing? >> well you know, that's right. the future is very fascinating. we took a look in a poll that...
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harry reid has been meeting with his caucus. republicans have been meeting on their side and the senate should be coming back in this afternoon as well. what would you give up in the fiscal cliff negotiations? let's go first to bridgeport, connecticut. thanks for waiting. >> i was thinking the republicans should drop the cpi issue that they have been discussing. it seems to me that they're working on getting it worked our for the estate tax. >> the chain on the consumer price index was a point of contention raised on the house floor. the reporting from politico earlier about the loggerheads' this afternoon, they say that the provision would result in lower payments for social security beneficiaries. boston, the independent go ahead. >> most companies in the u.s. are now headquartered in toronto. they make their profit in bermuda. we're spending 47 cents on the dollar on the deficit. we will have to do like canada and put a tax on gasoline. what is your opinion? what should we do to fulfill the debt and our obligation? >> what is
harry reid has been meeting with his caucus. republicans have been meeting on their side and the senate should be coming back in this afternoon as well. what would you give up in the fiscal cliff negotiations? let's go first to bridgeport, connecticut. thanks for waiting. >> i was thinking the republicans should drop the cpi issue that they have been discussing. it seems to me that they're working on getting it worked our for the estate tax. >> the chain on the consumer price index...
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shown absolutely good faith in just that we're a part on some pretty big issues. >> that was harry reid, the senate majority leader representing the democratic side of things. from the sound of both men, it appears that they are at an impasse. and certainly not optimistic when it comes to trying to reach any kind of any negotiated settlement right now. 6 we'll continue to listen in here. >> who yields time? i want to bring in dana bash. does it sound like they've broken off all talks. they've said, okay, that's it, i've made my proposal, you've made yours, we're too far apart. >> i wouldn't say they've broken off all talks. but what i will say is that this is very, very bad news, a very bad sign. as you and i talked about at the top of the hour, it is, it is good news or a good sign when we don't, we in the media don't hear a lot of what's going on in private. when either side decides to come out and say that there is a major setback or there is a big problem, that's a big red flag. the fact is that the republican leader came out and he said he wants to dance. close to a deal. he just n
shown absolutely good faith in just that we're a part on some pretty big issues. >> that was harry reid, the senate majority leader representing the democratic side of things. from the sound of both men, it appears that they are at an impasse. and certainly not optimistic when it comes to trying to reach any kind of any negotiated settlement right now. 6 we'll continue to listen in here. >> who yields time? i want to bring in dana bash. does it sound like they've broken off all...
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now, we are in the midst of a lot of last ditch pa bargaining between the senate leaders reid and mcconnell. what do you think of the chances for a small deal in the next less than 48 hours to avoid the cliff? >> exceedingly good. i think people don't want to go over the cliff if we can avoid it. i think what have we accomplished? political victory for the president. he stood his ground and he will get tax rate increases. maybe not at 250 but on upper income americans and the sad news for the country s that we accomplished very little in terms of not becoming greece or getting out of debt. this deal won't affect the debt situation. it will be a political victory for the president and i hope we will have the courage of our convictions when it comes time to raise the debt ceiling to fight for what we believe in asp republicans. but hats off to the president, he won. >> chris: you don't think some of the more conservative colleagues will filibuster or set up a procedural road block? they will vote to avoid going over the cliff? >> no, but if mcconnell can't get 60% of us to vote for this deal
now, we are in the midst of a lot of last ditch pa bargaining between the senate leaders reid and mcconnell. what do you think of the chances for a small deal in the next less than 48 hours to avoid the cliff? >> exceedingly good. i think people don't want to go over the cliff if we can avoid it. i think what have we accomplished? political victory for the president. he stood his ground and he will get tax rate increases. maybe not at 250 but on upper income americans and the sad news for...
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are expecting to hear from republican leader mitch mcconnell, maybe even senate majority leader harry reid, as of now so far as we know there is no fiscal cliff deal, but negotiations primarily betweens those two men are going on even as we speak or between their staffs. we're hearing a new sense of optimism from some senate members who believe they might be able to pass some kind of minimalist package that would keep tax rates from going up on the majority of americans. i want to go to capitol hill and cnn's senior congressional correspondent dana bash. dana, is that the sense you get that somehow we should be optimistic about whatever it is that's going on? >> you know, as we talked about before, you definitely get a feeling or the atmosphere here is that there is progress being made but in the same breath, but, there are still thingsing to worked out. as we wait for what we generally see when the senate opens which is the pledge of allegiance, a prayer and so forth, if you see the bottom of your screen, i'm not sure if you can see it, white hair, that is harry reid, the senate majority
are expecting to hear from republican leader mitch mcconnell, maybe even senate majority leader harry reid, as of now so far as we know there is no fiscal cliff deal, but negotiations primarily betweens those two men are going on even as we speak or between their staffs. we're hearing a new sense of optimism from some senate members who believe they might be able to pass some kind of minimalist package that would keep tax rates from going up on the majority of americans. i want to go to capitol...
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we have a loose deadline of 3:00 that reid and mcconnell had. what are you hearing as the clock ticks about where they are in negotiations? you said to me a moment ago, you are aware of a few sticking points. give us the latest. >> there are a few key sticking points. you know, it really does come down to the same thing. when you get done with the whole package, have we shifted taxes or are the wealthy getting their fair share? we get into estate tax where there's a debate about do the wealthy pay their fair share or shift it to the middle class. frankly, we have had two years of debating, running up to deadlines, putting faith and credit of the country on the line. each time, we agreed to spending cuts. now a total of $1.6 trillion in spending cuts that mainly hit the middle class, low income people, seniors and we still don't have any contribution from the wealthiest americans. that's the line in the sand for us. we know we need to go further on a lot of fronts. you have to start by everybody sacrificing and paying their fair share. >> you may
we have a loose deadline of 3:00 that reid and mcconnell had. what are you hearing as the clock ticks about where they are in negotiations? you said to me a moment ago, you are aware of a few sticking points. give us the latest. >> there are a few key sticking points. you know, it really does come down to the same thing. when you get done with the whole package, have we shifted taxes or are the wealthy getting their fair share? we get into estate tax where there's a debate about do the...
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senator harry reid has not passed budgets. president obama's budgets have been voted on 3 times, the final vote tally, 0-610. so getting back to your first question, have i seen a plan out of this president that would be an obvious yes from us? i haven't seen any specific plan. all i have seen is demagoguery and a few numbers thrown out, whether it's $800 billion over 10 years or $1 of revenue for $3 of spending cuts, but nothing specific that we need to see to hammer this thing out. >> he says the onus is on congress, this is your job to get done. he said in the clip we just had, if it doesn't get done, the people who are going to pay are the senior who is will lose out on benefits that they are enjoying. is that an accurate representation of what will happen? >> no! this country needs presidential leadership. the house has passed two budgets that would spend $7 trillion less than what president obama's budgets were proposed at. again, remember president obama's budgets didn't get a vote from a member of his own party. we do
senator harry reid has not passed budgets. president obama's budgets have been voted on 3 times, the final vote tally, 0-610. so getting back to your first question, have i seen a plan out of this president that would be an obvious yes from us? i haven't seen any specific plan. all i have seen is demagoguery and a few numbers thrown out, whether it's $800 billion over 10 years or $1 of revenue for $3 of spending cuts, but nothing specific that we need to see to hammer this thing out. >>...
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involved with this as any senator in the united states senate, other than mitch mcconnell and harry reid. i have never seen those cuts, so i'd love to take those up on the senate floor. let me just say this, like every american, i'm disgusted with where we are. i know people are irritated at the president, they're irritated at congress, as they should be. there's no question that in the next few days or next few weeks, we're going to rescue most of the american people from a tax increase. we're going to do it. better to do it over the next day or two. but what hasn't happened in this debate is any discussion about real reductions, reforms in medicare and social security, to save those. i think that is totally irresponsible. >> but there's -- look, here's where we are. there is not time for you to reform entitlements between now and midnight on the 31st. so here is your choice. you either allow tax rates to go up on everyone -- >> we're going to deal with that. >> or try to protect some people. >> i would bet my life over the next very short period of time, 98 to 99% of the people in the
involved with this as any senator in the united states senate, other than mitch mcconnell and harry reid. i have never seen those cuts, so i'd love to take those up on the senate floor. let me just say this, like every american, i'm disgusted with where we are. i know people are irritated at the president, they're irritated at congress, as they should be. there's no question that in the next few days or next few weeks, we're going to rescue most of the american people from a tax increase. we're...
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>> reporter: he and harry reid are working on scaled-down agreement that focuses on avoiding a middle-class tax hike. the plan is to present it to the full senate for a vote on sunday and send it to the house and hoax john boehner was at the capitol and left with no comment. both sides remain at odds over the democrat's insistence that the wealthy pay more in taxes. >> the president's tax hook would only fund the government for eight days. americans deserve to know what is the president -- what does the president propose we do for the other 357 days of the year. >> reporter: president obama insists his plan on the table is fair and includes plenty of cuts to government spending. >> we just can't afford a politically self-inflicted wound to our economy. >> reporter: if sunday's negotiations don't pan out, the president said he's ready to propose his own scaled-back bill that would block tax increases for all but the wealthy. and preserve expiring unemployment benefits. with the deficit ticking ever higher, patience is wearing thin. >> for those of us who invest in the stock market, it's disg
>> reporter: he and harry reid are working on scaled-down agreement that focuses on avoiding a middle-class tax hike. the plan is to present it to the full senate for a vote on sunday and send it to the house and hoax john boehner was at the capitol and left with no comment. both sides remain at odds over the democrat's insistence that the wealthy pay more in taxes. >> the president's tax hook would only fund the government for eight days. americans deserve to know what is the...
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senator reid said he's running a dictatorship? >> i don't think so at all. the frustration in the house-- and i'm not known as a no non-conservative-- they passed a lot of things there has not been action on in the senate, and that's the majority leader's prerogative. but if you take it and bend it to the will of the senate and send it back, that's how you get compromise. to not move dismingz not ever establish the process-- i think speaker boehner has done a good job in the members he has. i think they maid mistake in not supporting plan b. we would have modified it and sent it back and then they would have had it make a decision on it. the basic fact is the government is twice the size it was 11 years ago. and nobody in washington is doing anything to fix the growth of government to where we have one that we can afford. un, we're going to have to grow at 8%, 9%, if we think we can outgrow it. that isn't going to happen. we have to do the things we have to modernize medicare. we have to achieve real save that is won't change health care but will actually sa
senator reid said he's running a dictatorship? >> i don't think so at all. the frustration in the house-- and i'm not known as a no non-conservative-- they passed a lot of things there has not been action on in the senate, and that's the majority leader's prerogative. but if you take it and bend it to the will of the senate and send it back, that's how you get compromise. to not move dismingz not ever establish the process-- i think speaker boehner has done a good job in the members he...
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kron 4's alecia reid tells us more. (cheers & applause) (chanting ) lsu >> it is awesome! >> i am very pleased the way that they have played it is a great day for the sun devil nation (music) (cheers & applause) >> reporter: the fans also cheered on of their navy stea team. >> that is what i am insane, go and navy. >> they picked up an early lead. >> we predicted that they would win by 14 points, just two touchdowns. >> the game was over by the third quarter. >> it was great to see the navy fans walk out, early. >> it was a blow out. >> sorry! >> reporter: many travel from long-distance. >> we are from hawaii. >> we came all the way from the state of washington. >> we came from the state of oregon. >> everybody being a boat to come together, go doubles. everybody-being able to come together, go devils... this helps hunkhonke this goal of ths came is the craf kraft hunger game... >>> a new york woman has been charged with a hate crime for allegedly pushing a man to his death in front of a subway train. police say the surveillance video they released helped find erika menend
kron 4's alecia reid tells us more. (cheers & applause) (chanting ) lsu >> it is awesome! >> i am very pleased the way that they have played it is a great day for the sun devil nation (music) (cheers & applause) >> reporter: the fans also cheered on of their navy stea team. >> that is what i am insane, go and navy. >> they picked up an early lead. >> we predicted that they would win by 14 points, just two touchdowns. >> the game was over by the...
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i want the bottom line from both of you even if senators reid and mcconnell come to a deal. you're the top republican vote counter. will it pass and will it fly in the house? will this be done in time? >> if there is enough in the agreement for republicans to be able to support it, and we can get a majority of republicans in the senate and a majority of democrats in the senate, then i think there's a good opportunity for a majority of democrats and republicans in the house to support such a package, and i think a lot of that depends upon whether president obama is willing to compromise this sort of fixation with raising taxes above anybody making more than $200,000 a year. >> reed and mcconnell are both very good leaders and vote counters. if they come to an agreement, they know that they will be able to carry a majority of each of their troops. the real question mark is the house. the house is a bit out of control. they're the reason we've had the problems all along but my guess, if the house and senate agree and leader mcconnell agrees, the house will go along with it too.
i want the bottom line from both of you even if senators reid and mcconnell come to a deal. you're the top republican vote counter. will it pass and will it fly in the house? will this be done in time? >> if there is enough in the agreement for republicans to be able to support it, and we can get a majority of republicans in the senate and a majority of democrats in the senate, then i think there's a good opportunity for a majority of democrats and republicans in the house to support such...
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he and harry reid are working on a scale down agreement that focuses on avoiding a middle class tax hike. the plan is to present it to the senate for a vote on sunday and then send it over to the house. house speaker john boehner was at the capitol but left with no comment. the democrats insist the wealthy pay more in taxes. >> the president's tax hike would only fund the government for l days. americans deserve to know what does the president propose we do for the over 357 days of the year. sdmrsz -- >> president omaba insists his plan on the table is fair and includes plenty of cuts to government spending. >> we just afford a wound to our economy. >> if sunday's negotiations don't pan out the president says he's red to -- he's ready to propose his own scaled back bill that would preserve expiring unemployment benefits. >> with the deficit ticking higher -- >> it's disgusting. >> miss ing in all the last minute negotiations is talk of the 1.2 trillion in mandatory spending cuts scheduled to go into effect tuesday. >> the fiscal cliff count down is the big topic on this morning's fogs th
he and harry reid are working on a scale down agreement that focuses on avoiding a middle class tax hike. the plan is to present it to the senate for a vote on sunday and then send it over to the house. house speaker john boehner was at the capitol but left with no comment. the democrats insist the wealthy pay more in taxes. >> the president's tax hike would only fund the government for l days. americans deserve to know what does the president propose we do for the over 357 days of the...
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plan b, clancy, -- plan c, and now he is seated negotiants to harry reid. -- negotiations to harry reid. it is certainly possible that he may have trouble getting reelected as speaker. he may get 20 or so to party boats to vote against them or not vote at all. i could stop him from being reelected. host: what are the pitfalls for harry reid and mitch mcconnell? guest: mcconnell is up for reelection in 2014. if he agrees with the white house on something, particularly tax increases, it will hurt him in his election. remember rand paul -- mcconnell has less room to maneuver. for harry reid, a lot of his reputation is on the line. can he put something on the floor of the senate that some democrats will support? guest: the biggest loser is the unemployed and those trying to get jobs. that is what this is about. really, people need to step back and realize, while we are concerned about deficits, it is because it is a concern about the economy. there are different prescriptions for the economy at different times. allowing this recovery to slow down, even as it has already been anemic, would b
plan b, clancy, -- plan c, and now he is seated negotiants to harry reid. -- negotiations to harry reid. it is certainly possible that he may have trouble getting reelected as speaker. he may get 20 or so to party boats to vote against them or not vote at all. i could stop him from being reelected. host: what are the pitfalls for harry reid and mitch mcconnell? guest: mcconnell is up for reelection in 2014. if he agrees with the white house on something, particularly tax increases, it will hurt...
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all eyes now on senator reid and mcconnell. can they get a deal. they are dealmakers. they struck deals before. they have been working over the last 24 hours and we still have not seen an announcement from the talks. looks like we are going over the cliff. >> that begs the question if there is reid mcconnell deal in the senate. some discussion it would probably include an extension of tax rates for most americans. extension of unemployment benefits. possibly a measure to prevent the scheduled cut in medicare payments to doctors. how will the house respond to any senate deal? >> i think if mcconnell is onboard he will bring a lot of republican votes. the democrats are by and large if the president supports it they will back their president. there could be enough votes in the house, speaker john boehner talked about amending that bill. i think if it gets a 70 to 30 senate vote i think i it get te votes in it the house to pass but it might not happen until after january 3, january 4. >> i want to ask you about what ed henry was just reporting. president obama says either
all eyes now on senator reid and mcconnell. can they get a deal. they are dealmakers. they struck deals before. they have been working over the last 24 hours and we still have not seen an announcement from the talks. looks like we are going over the cliff. >> that begs the question if there is reid mcconnell deal in the senate. some discussion it would probably include an extension of tax rates for most americans. extension of unemployment benefits. possibly a measure to prevent the...
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what's happening right now is harry reid and mitch mcconnell, the top democrat, top republican in the senate, are still negotiating their staffs at this hour. they are supposed to be working until about 3:00 this afternoon when the plan would be presented to both caucuses. as we understand what they are talking about is the bare minimum. basically the senate negotiating to extend those tax cuts for everybody making under $250,000 a year and to extend unemployment benefits. also they're talking about trying to do something to stop the automatic spending cuts that go into effect, but don't expect a deal on that. now, dan, if a deal can be reached today, the senate would begin looking at it, begin debating it, and then you would see a vote tomorrow in the senate and possibly a vote tomorrow in the house because as you know, if we get to tuesday without any of this happening, off the cliff. >> and, jon, you say off the cliff by tuesday, just two days left. how damaging would it be if we do indeed go off the cliff even if we bungee jump back up a few days or weeks after with a mini deal? >
what's happening right now is harry reid and mitch mcconnell, the top democrat, top republican in the senate, are still negotiating their staffs at this hour. they are supposed to be working until about 3:00 this afternoon when the plan would be presented to both caucuses. as we understand what they are talking about is the bare minimum. basically the senate negotiating to extend those tax cuts for everybody making under $250,000 a year and to extend unemployment benefits. also they're talking...
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for the speaker, the president, harry reid and over in the senate, the real answer in this is looking big, looking bold, and coming up with something that is a compromise that everyone can be proud of. >>9 mr. messer, we have about 10 minutes left. >> how involved are newly elected lawmakers in what is going on right now? the house republicans have been holding conference calls. are you guys on those calls? do you not get anything until january 3 when you are sworn in? >> it varies. we're not on every one of those caucus conference calls. we have been briefed on many of the policy proposals. we are being kept abreast. it is not quite yet like be a member of congress. -- being a member of congress. >> obviously, the fiscal cliff discussions are centered around taxes and spending. we have a lot of other unfinished business in this congress. call me perhaps cynical and realistic, but i am sure will be planted into the 113th congress -- punted into the 113th congress. one of them is the farm bill. there is a threat that their prices could as much as double. you come from a part of indiana
for the speaker, the president, harry reid and over in the senate, the real answer in this is looking big, looking bold, and coming up with something that is a compromise that everyone can be proud of. >>9 mr. messer, we have about 10 minutes left. >> how involved are newly elected lawmakers in what is going on right now? the house republicans have been holding conference calls. are you guys on those calls? do you not get anything until january 3 when you are sworn in? >> it...
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harry reid has hunls of bills bottled up. the idea that one bill is entitled, well, in fact, both the senator and i would love to have some things unbottled for an up or down vote. it's not the process or fair to divide america. >> i've got to run. to be continued. i hope you'll come back. thank you so much. thank you all for being here. i appreciate it. >>> up next, why neglecting rural america could be costly for everyone. later, the washington game that never gets old. >> kicking the can down the road. >> we're not going to address it by kicking the can down the road. >> kick the can down the road when it comes to solving the larger problem of our deficit. s, and they're them. yes. but they're here. yes. are you...? there? yes. no. are you them? i'm me. but those rates are for... them. so them are here. yes! you want to run through it again? no, i'm good. you got it? yes. rates for us and them -- now that's progressive. call or click today. but i'm still stubbed up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your
harry reid has hunls of bills bottled up. the idea that one bill is entitled, well, in fact, both the senator and i would love to have some things unbottled for an up or down vote. it's not the process or fair to divide america. >> i've got to run. to be continued. i hope you'll come back. thank you so much. thank you all for being here. i appreciate it. >>> up next, why neglecting rural america could be costly for everyone. later, the washington game that never gets old....
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fiscal cliff and now we are in the midst of a lot of last-ditch bargaining between the senate leaders, reid and mcconnell, what are the chances for a small deal in the next, less than 48 hours to avoid the cliff. >> exceedingly good. i think people don't want to go over the cliff, if we can avoid it. i think, whatever we accomplish, political victory to the president, hats off to him, he stood his ground and will get tax increases, maybe not 250 but upper income americans and the sad news is we have accomplished little, in terms of not becoming greece, that bill will not affect the debt situation and it will be a a political victory for the president and i hope we have courage of our convictions, when it comes to raise the debt ceiling to fight what we believe as republicans. hats off to the president, he won. >> chris: quick follow-up, before we turn to senator feinstein, you said you don't think your conservative colleagues in the senate will filibuster or set up a procedural roadblock, they'll vote to avoid going over the cliff. >> if mcconnell can't get 60% of us to vote for the deal it
fiscal cliff and now we are in the midst of a lot of last-ditch bargaining between the senate leaders, reid and mcconnell, what are the chances for a small deal in the next, less than 48 hours to avoid the cliff. >> exceedingly good. i think people don't want to go over the cliff, if we can avoid it. i think, whatever we accomplish, political victory to the president, hats off to him, he stood his ground and will get tax increases, maybe not 250 but upper income americans and the sad news...
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. >> majority leader harry reid and minority leader mitch mcconnell say they're confident they come to a compromise but they have to sell it to john boehner and fellow republicans before the deadline. >> president obama will be david gregory's exclusive guest on "meet the press" later this morning. you can watch his interview at 10:00 a.m. former president george h.w. bush is out of intensive care and said to be improving this morning. he is in a regular room at houston methodist hospital. a family spokesperson says the family thanks everyone for their prayers and good wishes. he is being treated for a cough. a lawyer for one of the survivors of the newtown school massacre says the state of connecticut didn't do enough to keep kids safe and wants to sue for $100 million. the attorney says the state failed to provide a safe setting for his clintd, an unidentified 6-year-old girl. he says after hearing gunfire, she was left with emotional scars. to howard county where police say they've cracked a string of burglaries that hit homes in columbia and ellicott city. nadia ramdass has the sto
. >> majority leader harry reid and minority leader mitch mcconnell say they're confident they come to a compromise but they have to sell it to john boehner and fellow republicans before the deadline. >> president obama will be david gregory's exclusive guest on "meet the press" later this morning. you can watch his interview at 10:00 a.m. former president george h.w. bush is out of intensive care and said to be improving this morning. he is in a regular room at houston...
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. >> reporter: senate majority leader harry reid took a cautionary tone, perhaps to allay the fears of americans who are wondering how going off the cliff will affect their paychecks. analysts say taxes on people making between 50,000 and $75,000 a year will go up an average of $2400. >> whenever we come up -- whatever we come up is going to be imperfect. some people aren't going to like it, some people will like it less but that's where we are. i feel confident that we have an obligation to do the best we can and that was made very clear in the white house. >> reporter: president obama says it's important for congress to vote on some type of package before the fiscal cliff deadline expires. >> if an agreement isn't reached in time between senator reid and senator mcconnell, then i will urge senator reid to bring to the floor a basic package for an upor -- up or down vote, one that protects the middle class from a hike, extends insurance to 2 million americans looking for a job and lays the groundwork for future cooperation on more economic growth and deficit reduction. >> the current
. >> reporter: senate majority leader harry reid took a cautionary tone, perhaps to allay the fears of americans who are wondering how going off the cliff will affect their paychecks. analysts say taxes on people making between 50,000 and $75,000 a year will go up an average of $2400. >> whenever we come up -- whatever we come up is going to be imperfect. some people aren't going to like it, some people will like it less but that's where we are. i feel confident that we have an...
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harry reid made that point on the senate floor last week because who knows. maybe there's a few dozen conservatives in the house who don't want this guy to be speaker. i wonder, you're with the tea party. do you want two more years of john boehner as house speaker? >> there are a group of people that are focused on that but i don't think that's our real focus. our real focus is ringing in the out of control spending and living within our means. that's what most people are concerned about. get rid of john boehner, who else are we going to get? i mean, we lost the election. elections have consequences. we're not going to get everything we want. but we need to focus on the real issue of our debt and deficit. instead of focusing on the power of who's in charge in the republican party and the democratic party and who's winning of the two parties? >> let me ask you, you're focusing on the deficit here. if we do nothing with if there's no deal in the next few days, and we do nothing in the first few weeks and there's no patch in the first few weeks of the new year t
harry reid made that point on the senate floor last week because who knows. maybe there's a few dozen conservatives in the house who don't want this guy to be speaker. i wonder, you're with the tea party. do you want two more years of john boehner as house speaker? >> there are a group of people that are focused on that but i don't think that's our real focus. our real focus is ringing in the out of control spending and living within our means. that's what most people are concerned about....
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. >> reporter: sources closest to the talk tell harry reid and mitch mcconnell are working to draft a plan that will include extending unemployment benefits and keeping 30 million americans from paying the alternative minimum tax and allowing taxes to increase on the wealthiest americans. this remains a major sticking point for many republicans. some say a small deal is better than no deal at all but represents a lack of leadership. >> they haven't taken any of the hard measures to bring spending down and reform entitlements and raise more revenues. >> reporter: now, late saturday, negotiators continued to haggle over a number of issues, particularly the issue of taxes. republican leader, mitch mcconnell, was spotted at the capital. when asked if they would reach a deal, he told reporters, quote, i hope so. erica? >> many americans hoping so too. >>> david gregory is moderator of "meet the press." good morning. >> good morning, erica. >> you sat down with an exclusive interview with the president. did he seem optimistic to you? >> he says he is optimistic but really preparing to play
. >> reporter: sources closest to the talk tell harry reid and mitch mcconnell are working to draft a plan that will include extending unemployment benefits and keeping 30 million americans from paying the alternative minimum tax and allowing taxes to increase on the wealthiest americans. this remains a major sticking point for many republicans. some say a small deal is better than no deal at all but represents a lack of leadership. >> they haven't taken any of the hard measures to...